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22 May 2012

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Anne K. Albert

Fascinating post, Elizabeth. I particularly enjoyed your statement: "Each historian chose what to believe and what not to believe, and so do I." History (or herstory!) is not always the truth. It's often more about who wins vs who loses, and who tells the story.

Suzanne Adair

Welcome to my blog, Anne! Very true, that business about history being written by the winners. Maybe we should call it "Propaganda Class" instead of "History Class" in school. :-) Unbelievable, the distortions of truth I've found while researching for my series set during the Southern theater of the Revolutionary War.

Elizabeth Zelvin

Thanks for having me on the blog, Suzanne, and thanks, Anne. Just yesterday I read about more recent research giving additional reasons to suspect Columbus might have been a marrano, including what could have been cabalistic signs on some of his letters and items in his will--but I still don't believe it. One argument is that Columbus cared passionately about taking Jerusalem away from the Muslims. That seems ridiculous as evidence for his Jewishness, considering that the Christian Crusades were fought over that very issue.

Liz

Read about the confluence of expulsion and Columbus' sailing but have no idea of the historical events generating either or both. Interesting speculation.

Suzanne Adair

Elizabeth, in both history and science, I've seen the same piece of evidence twisted to support opposing conclusions. Conclusions are the most tenacious when they have a shock value. "Columbus was a Jew" may be around for a long time.

Suzanne Adair

Nice to have you back, Liz. Speculate with us all you like. Speculation is what they didn't want us to do in high school history class.

Ramona Long

What a fascinating post! This is not an area of history I have read about in depth, but you've piqued my interest. I echo the first comment--I love that you said "I choose to believe him."

Suzanne Adair

Thanks for stopping by, Ramona. I don't usually read in this time period, either. Elizabeth has found a cool niche in Diego the marrano sailor.

Elizabeth Zelvin

Suzanne, I was lucky in high school--our teachers did want us to speculate and think. On some issues, I understand a lot more in hindsight. One history teacher had us constantly repeat, "Only Congress can declare war." I now think he was waiting for one of us to wake up and say, "Oh, yeah? What about the Korean War?" so we could have a discussion about how government gets around its own rules. (This was before Vietnam.)

Suzanne Adair

You were indeed lucky! It sounds as though your history teacher was a wee bit disappointed with the government, trying to be careful that no other faculty realized he was displaying his opinion. :-) In those early days of the Cold War, to disagree with the government could mean getting yourself labeled a commie.

My sons have been fortunate in history class, too. A teacher who sets up the lesson so students will think and form their own conclusions makes the class memorable and fun.

Patricia Winton

Fascinating, Liz. I recently read something about Columbus's being Jewish based on the supposition (fact?) that he sought freedom for Jerusalem. I'm not an historian and I haven't researched the period. I certainly enjoyed "The Green Cross." Interesting post.

DCKat

Great Post. AS a history lover this is my first post here.
Can you post any further reading ideas for Columbus? Good Biography would be great. Thanks in advance and I look forward to future visits. DCKat

thelma straw

This was a superb post. I am constantly amazed at how brilliant Liz Zelvin is amd so versatile a writer! I'd love to have the paper copy of Death... Vacation. Thelma Straw , MWA-NY

Jenny Milchman

Whenever I read about Columbus, I get upset about how he is portrayed in school curricula. Interesting post!

Ilene Schneider

Liz: What is your opinion of the evidence (suspicion?) that Luis de Torres, Columbus's interpreter on the 1st voyage, was Jewish?

Shomeret

I went to a Yeshiva (Jewish religious school)where I was taught that Columbus had a Hebrew abbreviation at the top of any of his writings (letters and journals)that all Jews use. Yet it occurred to me at the time that even if he were Jewish, he would have needed to conceal it to avoid becoming the victim of the Inquisition. I doubt that he would have included Hebrew on any writings that others would have seen. Christopher Columbus' Jewish Roots by Jane Frances Amler argues that Columbus' grandfather was Jewish.

I would be delighted to win a copy of The Green Cross

Elizabeth Zelvin

Ilene, the fact that Luis de Torres was included because he spoke classical languages, including Hebrew, and that it was supposed that this would help if they encountered the ruler of Japan, where in fact they expected to end up, is evidence of how ill prepared the expedition was in general. DCKat, my main sources for the YA novel I'm trying to sell now were Samuel Eliot Morison's 1942 Pulitzer Prize winning ADMIRAL OF THE OCEAN SEA and the radical historian Kirkpatrick Sale's 1984 THE CONQUEST OF PARADISE, along with translations of the primary sources. Morison's view is Eurocentric and patriarchal, but he knows navigation. He was an admiral in the US Navy and followed the route of all four of Columbus's voyages in his own sailboat. Sale calls attention to the rape and genocide, which historians had been overlooking for 500 years. About DEATH WILL EXTEND YOUR VACATION, Thelma, it's in hardcover only, and I hope that won't deter readers.

Nancy Adams

Absolutely fascinating, Liz! I've found in my own research that different historians can draw very different conclusions from the same primary sources.

I would love to win a copy of Bruce's third adventure. I love his character!

Jody

Fascinating reading. I'm sure the book will be as well.

Elizabeth Zelvin

Thanks to all who've commented and said good things about my work. :) Can you imagine what Columbus's contemporaries would have said if I claimed I flew 3000 miles in a single night? The Inquisition would have burned me as a witch--but that's exactly what I did yesterday, New York to California on JetBlue to sing at the birthday party of a friend who helped create history in the Sixties as a leader of the Free Speech Movement at Berkeley.

Gretchen Craig

This is history at its most fascinating, when we see the very human effects up close and not just the political implications for monarchs.Very interesting post.

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