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05 July 2012

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Tracy Smith

Thanks to you and your guests, Suzanne, for this week's series of thought-provoking posts. It was a great success and I look forward to next year's lineup.

In parting, I am reminded of the old familiar quote -- "Those who cannot remember history are condemned to repeat it" -- the mistakes, at least.

Linda

This post resonates deeply, as have all the posts this week (Huzzah to you and your guests for keeping history relevant). Thanks to all of you!

We have definitely lost sight of the vision of the Founding Mothers and Fathers of this land--even the landed gentry who saw they had a long way to go regarding slavery and the rights of women acknowledged that the more privileged a person was, the more responsibility they had to serve their country in whatever way was necessary for the good of the nation.

I watched the Naturalization ceremony at the White House yesterday and was moved by the wording of the oath any naturalized citizen takes. I wonder how many of us "born in the USA" citizens have ever read it, much less tried to follow it??

Thank you again for a wonderful week (I follow you the rest of the year as well, of course, but too often only lurk--I must apologize for that and attempt to do better).

Suzanne Adair

Hi Tracy! I hope your Fourth of July went well. Thank you for participating all this week. I'm glad you got so much out of the second annual Week-Long Fourth of July.

That particular quote has been attributed to several people. Otherwise I'd have used it in one of my posts this week. :-)

Nevertheless, the sentiment imparts a great warning, and you're so right to highlight it. For the most part, Americans dismiss history in public schools; in some areas it's becoming an elective, rather than a requirement.

We cannot plot where we're going unless we know where we've been. What we're seeing right now in terms of "issues" is a result in part of not reviewing where we've been.

History is relevant to the future, indeed.

Suzanne Adair

Linda, thanks for hanging in there all week and commenting so much!

There are several versions of the Oath, but I think the standard one runs as follows:

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perfor m noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

I hope everyone who's read this blog this week takes a look at that and thinks about it. I appreciate your mentioning it!

Warren Bull

What a wonderful week of blogs. You could quote the country's founders on the corrosive effect slavery would prove to have. From the earliest times they knew it would have to be ended. I already have your book and it's great so please don't include me in the drawing.

Suzanne Adair

Warren, yes, I saw those quotes and was tempted to post them. Right after the Revolution, Congress voted on abolishing slavery. Didn't it lose by one vote? There's another idea for an alternate history story.

Eric Oppen

Many people are honestly shocked (blame the Second Great Awakening and nineteenth-century historians) to find out how indifferent to religion many of the Founders, including Washington, were. If they were alive and saw how much piety is expected of candidates, Washington and friends would be deeply shocked.

Suzanne Adair

Welcome to my blog, Eric! I agree that America's founders would be taken aback at the amount of religion infusing the political landscape now. But rather than being indifferent to religion in their time, I suggest that they were cautious of involving religion, cognizant of how European powers had achieved atrocities with it.

Georgia Wilson

Thanks for adding on the Naturalizati0on Oath mentioned by Linda.I had never read it. I am researching a story set in the 8th century and learned for the first time of the Zoroastrian scriptures of the Sasanian Empire when Arabs brought the rule of Islam into Iran. I recently finished Elizabeth,the Golden Age with the bitter debate between Catholics and Protestants. Religious views play a signiicant role in world history, and I don't think our Founders were indifferent to them.I do agree they wanted to avoid volatile conditions permitting one religion to control government.IMHO
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Denise Z

I think that Thomas Jefferson's comment "I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." (Thomas Jefferson) is pretty eyeopening considering this very same argument is being made today. Makes me wonder if we will ever learn from the past. Thank you for participating in this fun hop.
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Suzanne Adair

Georgia, indeed, you don't have to look very far to find a situation from the past or the present in which a religion and a government are enmeshed, then take note of the results.

Suzanne Adair

Hi Denise, I love Jefferson's use of the word "parasite" in that sentence. It's so right. The man was brilliant.

Marilyn E. Rothstein aka: M. E. kemp

I was at the Saratoga Battlefield on the 4th of July where a group of people were made citizens. After musket and cannon demonstrations we toasted the 13 colonies. This is an annual tradition with us.

Suzanne Adair

That sounds like a stirring ceremony, Marilyn. Thanks for sharing.

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